Hi All, It is currently 6.00PM Wed here. I had my SVR12 8.00AM yesterday so am waiting for my result as we speak. I notified my nurse and she is watching out for my results. I was initially told these tests would take longer - up to two weeks so we shall see. Trying to keep busy with my son moving house. I'm flat out cleaning and sorting.

My Neuropathy has worsened of late, even affecting my hands (just numbness not pain, but over and over again at night. Since my sleep was already terrible its not helping - according to my fitbit I regularly only get 2-4 hours sleep with the odd 6. I have started magnesium again and it seems to be helping, particularly with my feet so that is good. I'm too busy to worry about it at the moment.

I will try to organise a pic of my baby Canuck, she is a little sweetie. Haven't even taken her for a walk the last few days, poor love, I'm so busy.

Lovely to know your thoughts are with me peeps. I will let you know when I hear.

hi harry.

i was looking for your thread but did not see one. do you want to start a thread of your own? it's easier for us to answer questions and follow your journey.

go to this link and click on the "start new topic" and name it what ever you like

https://hepcfriends.activeboard.com/f388110/on-treatment/

i got sick after eot :( , but got well. my liver clinic wasn't very hands on, but my family dr helped me thru what ever i had going on.

i am feeling much better since treatment. it's a beautiful thing. 

i'm so happy to hear you are hanging in there and with only 26pills to go

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Hi,does anybody else suffer from constipation with epclusa ?also had hearing problems 2week seem ok now my dr gave me steroids for 10 days hearing ok now ,maybe becourse im older im 65 geno 3 still f2 fibroscan was ok lucky since probley got viris back in the 70s !!im starting 3rd mth today,i thought they wud check my blood but said i have to wait till after tx finished i feel so tired sometimes guess iv no choice but keep taking pills 28 to go ,just hope its working an not hurting mi immune system .thanks everyone good luck.

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 yep, keep taking your pills at the same time and drink a gallon of water..this is a cure, a real good medicine so you are doing good to take it and get cured.

hang in there; it will be over before you know it

Thinking of you STL  

Still wishing hoping praying all good things for you!

Love, hoodie

STL,   Is it Monday in Australia? Does that mean you go for your SVR12 blood draw on Tuesday, Oct 16?? (I hope!)  C.

Hey STL,

Was just countin days with our other Epclusa lady Hoodie, your EOT+12 week blood draw is coming up next week isn't it? And her EOT is happening in about 10 days i think. Good news for the both of you is just around the corner!

I was wondering how Hoodie was doing, and I was wondering about the same for you too.

I certainly hope something is easier, or even slightly improved, in some way (as compared to your first 4 weeks after EOT). You were not feeling much relief (at all) in being finished with treatment (as far a relief of some of your physical discomforts) - I sure hope something feels a little better or at least not getting worse! I remember 5 mentioned the things that she experienced after EOT, and I experienced some things too, it was disappointing I must admit, but still i hung onto knowing everything should work out and would improve - it took a while, but it did.

I hope the same for you, that if you are not feeling better yet, that it WILL come. I am convinced, that being without this virus, that this will help you that way. Wait and see. In the meantime did you end up exploring with any doc, any of the things you were being distressed with, did you try the mag again, maybe ask to see a neuropathy specialist guy?

In the meanwhile, wondering what you have been up to. How you and your sweet doggy pal are making out from day to day. How is your weather? Do you have any pics for us - I have never been to your continent, pics or weather descriptions are always so interesting to us who are trapped at this lat and long! Maybe you got some pics of your pup? I enjoyed that one you sent of the bird in your yard! 

Later, C.

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i too hope that in time my feet stop hurting like they do. my hands and wrists don't seem as bad right now , but i am def careful with them and my feet.

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 Hey 5, I didnt realize you had these problems too. Im adding you to my daily prayers and sending you all my good vibes & luv. 

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 thank you hoodie ,  i too pray for you and our other forum friends

every day i feel better, so i know the prayers we pray are working

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i too hope that in time my feet stop hurting like they do. my hands and wrists don't seem as bad right now , but i am def careful with them and my feet.

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 Hey 5, I didnt realize you had these problems too. Im adding you to my daily prayers and sending you all my good vibes & luv. 

Welcome home Tig.

Ya, i just scrolled down to where Ob's wrote it - it WAS glycinate that Ob's was remarking on. The "th"  (threonate) was the one my mind switched to, and it too is also highly absorbable and touted as good for "neuro" issues. 

The one i happen to be taking of late just comes pre-combined with some other things, but it has multiple forms  of magnesium (hydroxide/carbonate/stearate/oxide/malate/glycerophosphate) in it - some potpourri smattering of magnesium types I guess to cover multiple bases? Regardless, overall/combined it is a fairly low dose of magnesium (both in mgs and what I likely end up absorbing).

There seems to be a TON of stuff on the internet to describe what they think each kind of magnesium might do fer ya. Here's one describing the highly absorbable threonate as being especially good for for neuro issues (ignore the sales pop-up stuff).

https://www.mamanatural.com/best-magnesium-supplement/ . Good grief, it seems the more you read the more stuff you have to buy and take!

Maybe reading this will help remind STL which were the types of mag she had tried for a while in the past, and see which she might opt to try again in future.

Some people on PPI's for instance may not easily absorb mag, thus citrate might be better for them?, I read. Then, there are those of us who may have loose stool issues, they too might need to take certain forms of mag (perhaps glycerophosphate) so as not to upset the cart, BUT, then ... you also have to be careful with people who may also have renal problems! Juggling, judging and reading is required. The more absorbable (in aprox order) are 1-citrate, 2-glycinate, 3-malate, 4 carbonate - but that list is not exhaustive of all the mag types!

I'm exhausted now, so I'll shut-up now.  C.

hi tig, so glad you made it home safely. and yea, traveling is not something i like to do

Hello,

Just checking in and unpacking from a day of fighting the airport hordes. Geez, what a mess those places are. They need traffic control inside the terminal as well as outside... eye roll 

Obs recommended form of magnesium was the magnesium glycinate formula, if my recall is correct.

now days the rhumatologists want to put us on some kind of medicine, but i will keep away from that tx mainly cos it can cause other probs.

i too hope that in time my feet stop hurting like they do. my hands and wrists don't seem as bad right now , but i am def careful with them and my feet.

and now i can take some allergy meds without side effects.... i take a few grains or dust of claritin and it's just enough to help me breathe and feel better. i never take a full dose of anything .[except the harvoni of course, and if needed a cpl times a year ,antibiotics] 

i'm so thankful for UND.

STL (and 5),

Stay fast in the goal of gtting better in ALL ways - I am SURE some of these things WILL start to improve for you (both of you) these horrid things which may have been plaguing us prior to treatment.

We each all have dif stuff happening to us before, during and after treatment - our poor bodies have been long working under the extra constant unforgiving stress of carrying this virus, and if we feel it or not (having the virus or being freed of it) your body certainly knows you have been freed of this huge viral burden. But, for you two, it is STILL early days. Be patient, wait, hard to do when your body is still feeling in distress, it will just have to suffice (for now) to know that you have done every good thing possible for yourslef to be freed of this virus, and this cure is going to pay enormous dividends to you in future. I just know it. We are not built right to carry this virus, without it you will be improved, in what ways, we shall see.

I too did not feel "better" on treatment, nor did i note big improvements for quite a while after cure, but over time I surely have and I am so grateful for each one - whether big or small.

Now mind you, I did not have that kind of pedal neuropathy to have to deal with.

I feel strongly that you must get some attention to this part STL, ask to see a specialist of some sort for this - this much neuropathy/pain and disability is just TOO much. What were the tests they did on you again (for cryoglobulins, C-reactive protein, rheumy tests, autoimmuny tests, etc.??) What did the doc(s) come up with in regard to your pedal comlaints?, what did they say about it?? Had you already been assessed by a specialist or a rheumy guy or a neurologist guy for this pedal neuropathy? I can't recall if you had said before. If nothing else (in the interim), you just simply must give the magnesium Ob's mentioned another try, a modest daily dosing of this cannot possibly harm you and "may" over a period of days or weeks might help some (you never know), maybe you have already tried going back to trying to use some mag?, you mentioned trying it once in the past with lac-lustre results, i would try again, with the specific type Obs mentioned. I think it worth a try. I forget the name of Ob's one (starts with "th") there are formulas out there that hold "a blend of dif magnesiums" in them, to suit everyone's current beliefs on what each one might be able to do best for you, but I have heard that the "th" one may well be quite an important type of magneisium for neuropathic issues. 

I was kinda disappointed too after cure, especially in the area of energy/fatigue/weakness and other things, but the small things that happened first bouyed me, getting rid of a mysterious numb/dead, itchy painful spot on my back that I had hosted for-e-ver - just .... disappeared one day, much to my amazement! And a decades-long-standing intractable (I thought) back pain that just vanished - that one blew me away! I can tell you those two things alone were huge for me, the fatigue took a long time, i too was plagued with post-cure infections of dif sorts, abcesses and such but the face, ear, skin infection things DID stop!

I was glad to know more about the orthopedic stuff in your wrist, I had got part of it down, the "you're too old and not working" justification BS from your first posts about it!, but now that you explain it more fully, that has been quite the journey to get where you are with that! Soooo, you think it is going to work/suffice?? 

Gotta go, more later.

Certainly hope your feet have gven you a repreive of late. Fingers crossed. C.

Oh Hoodie, shucks....you sweetie, Thanks

See The Light, please hang in there. I will pray for you every day, please know that you are loved. 

Thanks Tig and 5. Feet didn't seem quite as bad this morning so I just braved walking the dog. Poor little bugger is going stir crazy. Felt so sorry for her when I was on electric blanket on full and rotating from one side to other.....Slow roasting...... sometimes when I moved the pain was so intense I moaned or cried out ahhh or something she was so upset she jumps on my chest crying too and trying to lick me better.

This pain which most peeps think is in my head, has always eased when active so thought I need to do this, for both of us. So walk we did. apart from one ankle wasn't too bad really but when I got home and sat they were not great. Feeling so ****ty I have been feeling very down as well, so needed to do something normal. I was really hoping my feet would improve after treatment and am so upset they are worse than ever. I can only hope that in time they do improve. The pain is easing again now wish the head would too.

As I said I can't really blame the treatment as I had these things before.... Yep 5 I have had some mouth infection too. It just seems one thing after another or as well as another this week. Hope next week will be better. I have town this weekend and again next.

Sorry to hear about Canuck. I do hope she is coping OK - such a lovely helpful Lady. I felt bad when I came online to see her extensive post 6 days ago which I had not replied to.

i had a first ever migraine with aura, stomach flu, sinus infection , no energy, and i'm sure other things too , oh yea, canker sores on gums and sore gums...

STL, my first month post was awful. now i'm here to say that my second month is going great; so hang in there and baby yourself

Hi STL,

Goodness, you just sound exhausted, mentally and physically. I’m so sorry you’re feeling this way. Good to know you finally made some progress with your wrist, but geezus, what a nightmare you went through to get where you are. A victory, but I wish you had more comfort and were able to rest at night. I know you’re tough and will persevere, but... Keep your proverbial chin up and do your best to muscle through it.

I also have some severe trouble with my spine and have heard that same story about age and do I want to go through all of the surgery and recovery again. It gets tiring and of course with the opioid crisis everywhere, the people that could use some relief, can’t get it. 

I have heard similar complaints about joint pain post treatment with some of these DAA’s, but the good news is, it improves with time. I have to wonder if, like Interferon, these anti virals cause some inflammation around the joint surfaces and hurts like hell until that swelling reduces. Let’s hope.

FYI, Canuck had a death in the family and has been gone a day or two tending to that. I know she’ll be anxious to talk with you as soon as she’s back in touch. Stay well Sister!

Well now my post treatment month I would say has not been great. But again with my other issues it is probably not due to treatment, so no I have not noticed anything good re other problems. My sleep is still awful. My Aches and pains worse than ever. The last few days I could barely move re my feet. Again this has always come in waves and this wave has been a doozy. Its my ankles as well as tops of my feet this time and its been unbearable. Hasn't helped with my sleep I can tell you. As I said I've had this for years but since this wave is the worst Ive ever had I am sorry to say my treatment certainly hasn't improved it.

I am getting a lot of headaches too. Still try to keep drinking plenty. Possibly partly due to my eyes. I have had appointments with a specialist re my cataracts this past week too. My sight has deteriorated substantially since the optician who referred me in October. I wonder if that is the reason for headaches as everything is blurry and reading computer etc is not real good. Now I am on the waiting list for that so thats progress- within 12 months, so heres hoping it will come up sooner than later. At least I'm on the list now measurements taken etc so that is progress.

Also been suffering the dreaded constipation this week too which broke lose with diarrhea when I could hardly move my feet....That was fun ....I'm now 4 weeks post Epclusa so I can only hope my general health improves soon and the next two months fly so I can know if I have beaten this thing or not.

Hi Canuck,

Sorry for the delay. It has been a full on week shall we say. I visited Hand Clinic Wednesday and have now been cleared. I don't know just how much I said about my hand situation at the time but it was a result of a Radius which healed crooked. It took weeks to get into the clinic. They were going to fix it going by the Xray provided at the time.... till they saw the new current Xrays that day. By then it had completely healed so it was then left three months to see how it went. In three months it was not good at all I was suffering terrible numbness/pins and needles etc as well as constant pain, so worse than it was last visit. The lovely Indian registrar was wanting to perform a big op on it which would involve bone grafts from my hip as with my chalky bones the length of the bone had shrunk as well as being crooked. He went off to talk to the head man and after some time he came back to tell me he feels that due to my age and no longer working (My translation - you are too old and useless) he did not want to do it and they would instead perform a carpal tunnel procedure -( treat the symptoms was the philosophy and the main thing I was complaining about was the numbness and pain, so performing this procedure and removing a little nerve would be a simple procedure which they felt would help me. I went along with that and although it did help a little it was still pretty bad, so again after three months physio and another visit ....more talk about really fixing it but again after a talk with the head man ....this time I met the man. I was still quite grumpy about the age and work thing but had to admit he was good. He explained that to fix this would involve and extremely major operation which given the state of my bones and joints ....all the arthritic finger joints etc he felt the outcome may not be good. In not being able to move it for months I will likely lose a lot of the movement I now have. My main symptom then was the knuckly thing on outside of wrist was now more under the hand and preventing movement to that side and down. This time the answer was to remove that knuckle. Apparently the procedure is used quite often in India to improve movement, but rarely used here. It would improve movement they both felt and be more likely to succeed than anything else. They did not feel the real fix was the right way to go in my case, and talked me round. I knew this was my last ditch effort and this failed I was doomed. The procedure was called Darrach's Release, - exercise of the distal joint from the Ulna. It was done in March just before I began my appointments for Hep C. It caused me problems something chronic, because the ulna was now floating slight movement caused extreme pain. I remember in the shower I went to use it to wash my armpit  and the pain nearly caused me to pass out vomit. You cannot get back into clinic easily. I had an appointment for three months so all I could do was go A & E. I felt something wasnt stable and they would have to go back in. After wasting all day there all I end up with was an Xray...(Gorr to see this bone connected to nothing was so weird) a script for panadene forte and a referral to fracture clinic within 2 weeks....Well I thought that was ridiculous ...I didn't have a fracture but their point was at least I was back in orthopedics before the three months my appointment was scheduled for. Well that appointment didn't come for 6 weeks and by then I was seeing my man again in 5 weeks so I cancelled that one...I knew it would be another wasted trip and actually by then my hand was well on the mend. My lovely registrar was very pleased and apologized for not telling me more about the initial instability while it was healing. Well now as of Wed I'm cleared and its the best its been since I broke it some 18 odd months ago so I guess alls good. LOL There are no further options so it has to be. It works I can perform my normal duties, as well as I can expect to. It gets stronger all the time but will seized joints in my fingers .....he....it wasn't good to start with.

This essay is going way to long so will post again re my post Epclusa month

You are right, and you are answering your own questions!  And Tig is right too ... you commented on what Tig said ...  " Hope it is just  as Tig said these results fluctuate. " 

The key items (that should reassure you that your labs are normal, quell your fear of failure and indicate your cure) - are within all of these comments:

... your ALT and AST's have been within normal limits, twice now.

... "my provider says they are fine I guess they are".

... "was very nice and said All looks good".

Some people having lower numbers than you has no bearing on your cure whatsoever, it is not a comparison that counts - your ALT and AST are within normal limits period, had you had the luxury of being abe to draw your bloods frequently, before, during and after your cure you would have seen fluctuations I am sure, after cure you might get some generally even lower LFT's (but really, who cares) as long as they are within normal limits. Within normal limits is good enough for the kinda gals I go with! Within normal limits is, well ... NORMAL! Ya kint ask fer much more than that! When we are operating within the realm of normal limits, a rise or lowering of a few points either way are meaningless, as long as they are within normal limits, that is what counts.

There are some here on this site who were lucky to have frequent bloods done and could follow the ups and downs in thier ALTs. Some cured people have been lucky enough to keep having frequent follow-up bloods done and some have been lucky enough to see that their LFT's have continued to decrease some! Everybody is dif. What is important is that you are GLORIOUSLY within normal limits.

I would be happily wallowing in pride over your now-lovely normal ALT/AST's and celebrating them, over your old LFT'S - and that's fer sure.   C.

I enjoyed hearing your locums comments, nice that he points out what he considers are the important bloods to you, and, his comments on how DDA's are working out there in his world/our world!

Have you noticed anything dif now, now that you been off epclusa for a little while? Are you still having the exact same sleep/eat patterns, bodily maladies as always. Other than an initial relief of finishing my vosevi, and noticing some of the on-treatment feelings dissipating quite quickly after finishing the course, it took me quite some time to start detecting some changes for the good, especially in fog/fatigue/strength - slowly things got better, sometimes weird unexpected improvements occured, I am still improving. I thank Gilead and my doc every day. In little ways or large ways I hope you start to soon reap the benefits of your cure - it is already obvious (according to your ALTs) that (since at least week four) your liver has finally been relieved of the duress it has been operating under for quite some time. More good things to follow. 

Later, after you are further along, I would still like to ask you about that very unsatisfactory event of those doc assessing your badly fixed hand - and how all THAT went down with those guys! That's not right - maybe someday, you should re-group, bump heads with newer/kinder, more reasonable heads and be offered the choice of having that hand fixed. That whole story they told you rubs me the wrong way - thats not right - you deserve to have things fixed if you think it will help you, and if the surgery would help you! 

Those are all excellent numbers, STL! The Lymphocytes are part of the white blood cell group. Overall, as is stated, your WBC’s are completely normal. So having the lymphocytes elevated only means, as your doctor said, they’re there to combat anything that might try and spoil your party. Your body is having none of that! It’s all good...

I don't miss those little pills a bit.  Time for new habits.  Think of a habit  you've been wanting to take up and set the alarm for that! 

I understand though.  Getting diagnosed, approved, and treated is a long and indelible process. I thought it would never end.

It does

Thanks folks. Does seem a little concerning that my numbers went up rather than down 8 weeks later, but since my provider says they are fine I guess they are. I see a lot of people here posting much lower numbers. Hope it is just  as Tig said these results fluctuate.

Yes Canuck .......all my results were very normal cepting the same three as last time. When I have a particularly odd one it is only a one of....it doesn't usually resurface [touch wood}

RDW 11.9 Low (May 11.4) [range 12-15]

Mean Platelet Volume 8.8 Low (May 9.3) [range 9.5-13]

Lymphocytes 4.2 High (May 4.39) [range 1.5-3.5]

I saw a locum yesterday and he said he wouldnt even look at those as by bloods are fine ....he circled the ones at the top of the sheet and said these are the ones I take notice of and they are all good.

Haemoglobin 123 [115-155]

White Cell Count 7.58 [4-11]

Platelet Count 257 [150-450]

He said the Lymphocytes fight infection and disease and having a few extra was good in my case LOL

He was very nice and said All looks good. He has heard only good things re people being cured very quickly and easily with the new drugs, and how amazing they are.

Nice STL. Boringly normal ALTs and AST's, twice no less! The second repeat round of ALT/AST at your EOT only re-inforces the momentus importance of your first "foregone conclusion" of what your 4 week crash meant, you have hit bottom (in the nicest and best possible ways), that hitchhiking varmit died long ago, poof, and you can mark your ALT by that! (Epclusa police ... "Nothing to see here folks, all cleaned up long ago, move along! everybody, straight to EOT+12 week SVR")! heehee  C.

PS - did they do any other bloods at all, like iron or ferritin levels, you said once you had a high iron level show up didn't you - maybe they will check your ferritin level, and/or maybe re-check just some of your other chemistries again. How is the insomnia dept BTW?, you haven't mentioned it in a while. 

Excellent numbers STL! They will fluctuate as things normalize and you adjust back to yourself again. As long as they don’t jump off the chart and continue to stay a lovely shade of normal, you have nuttin’ to worry about... 

October will be here before you know it!

Not bad at all! Best wishes for great news in Oct!

Got the printout of my EOT Bloods. ALT 23 AST 30....... MMM I note up a bit from last time. After 4 weeks they were 16 and 23. They tell me that's fine so guess I shouldn't be concerned......Here's hoping Oct will bring good news!

Thanks Canuck, you have become a dear friend on this journey I've travelled. Its been a bit strange this week without my magic beans. Different, as you say my life had been so focused on taking them. I have missed them being a part of my life. Now I sit and wait out the next 12 weeks to see if the magic was mine. I feel good. Spoke to my nurse yesterday who says my bloods were all good, much the same as last time. I will go to my GP next week and see if I can get a copy/more information.

Off to the big smoke dreckly' Time for a night of fun and laughter. Probs stay a few days....till they get sick of me, I get sick of them. If the pup doesn't be good it mightn't be too many nights.

Hey STL,

You said ... " The alarm wont be ringing...". EOT is a weird time/milestone, us, so geared up, getting psyched up and ready for treatment, slogging through/complying with treatment and then .... nothing. We finally kinda get used to the routine, the concepts that were formally new to us, believe and accept the fact that we ARE indeed getting cured and will now be bettter, when, all of a sudden the pills run out - now what! The pills became (for me anyway) a little savior I swallowed each day and was dependant on for great feelings of security and hope, when they were gone there was this weird little emptyness. At the same time I was as gleeful and excited as a child marvelling at the sound of those last few pills rattling around in my bottle, getting near to the end, then there were only 2, then one, until there were none. It was a relief just in itself to NOT have to take them, but I had fleeting thoughts of missing their security and company as well, in a way. I think for most folk having hepc undermines our basic security, we are at a distinct disadvanage to say the least, hepc is NOT a confidence builder disease, when they say it is a systemic disease, boy they mean it - it affects everypart of us, mind and body. The docs, our freinds here and supports along the way of our journey, help us get through it all, but the piils come to represent the epitomy of the very best help we have ever recieved. Thank you science and Gilead. No wonder I felt funny with no more pills left. I had called them my biggest-bestest-strongest-bro (or buddy) EV-ER in a bottle, my army, saviour. It's a journey alright. Keep on doing what you are doing, walking, treating yourslef good, restings as you need it. Revel in the good work you have just done. I loved your little symbol when you said aaaah, what shall I do tomorrow!     C. 

 Thanks Iris, I'm not going anyplace soon.....I will certainly update my news and of course I shall be hanging about keeping an eye on how all you "Works in Progress" peeps are doing.

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 Love it Iris

Congratulations See the Light!!! good news  indeed, What Will you do? The nasty little worry in the back of the mind can at last take it's leave. I'm really glad for you. I will be nice to hear how you feel over time, do check in and let us know eh?

Many blessings and bu-bye beans! they grew you some strong stalk.  Iris

LOL You both made me laugh.....Its nearly 7.30.....The alarm wont be ringing with my silly little message set that made me smile each morning when I had to turn it off.....

Even had to take a pic of it for the memory before deletion....

Day one of the rest of my life 7.29 AM....MMM what shall I do

WOW! Look who just reached EOTville! Time to disembark the Epclusa Train and get onboard the train to SVR. All aboarddddd....

Congrats

CONGRATS STL!!

Well that's Bean Number 84 down the hatch. My dear friend Epclusa Bottle number three is empty. The Pillbox is no longer required. 7.30AM "Magic Bean Call" alarm removed from the phone. EOT Bloods have been drawn. Now I sit back relax as I move closer and closer to the light.

EOT is Here....EOT is Here.....EOT is Here

Nite Nite......Sleep tight Canuck

11 1/2 hours but who's counting. ROFL

Yes 5 I will go down for the blood draw in the morning......will have some have some insight into my liver health by the end of the week. Then ill join you on the big 3 month wait to see if the treatment was successful

I hardly ever pay attention to the clock, I just know I've been (oops) up too late, for sure, when I start to see sunrise! I never know what time it is on your side of the pond (or the correct day, for that matter), nor do i get it right even over here! Don't wear a watch and generally just dunt care to, I'm usually late for eveything and I prefer to make my buddy wear all the watches and be the minder - so easy for me. Stress boy, personality A type so he's constantly watching the clock anyway, what for I dunno!

So I waaaaaas gunna say "one more sleep" eh? But that is problematic, me with no timesense and our time warp. Suffice to say, it surely IS going to be mighty fine to see you take that one last lovely bean, in what ... 12 hours and 25 mins (but who's counting). 

Oh dear, I see 5, you are incorrigible, bad influenece on me girl, goading me on to stay up another 3 hours!

I HAVE to go to bed - got to get up early tomorrow for some stupid home plumbing disaster we are going to try to take care, on a Sunday no less, right - will be brushing my teeth with cold water from a bottle in the AM, no more tea for me tonight, it will only make me pee and with no water for flushing the toilet ...

I hope you are feeling a little better 5 and that you have an absolutely grand EOT celebration tomorrow STL even if the venue has to be in a lab for a while. You can do a EOT happy dance anywhere, and who cares who's looking.  C.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wt824D1Bqg

are you getting EOT labwork done this week? oh yea, the joy of not having to focus on "is it time for my pill?" .... it was like the baby that needed to be feed and bathed and changed.

Thanks 5 its yes hard to believe that in 12 1/2 hours my last magic bean will be down the hatch, and within a couple of hours I will have had my EOT blood test. I will be so weird to not have to focus on 7.30 am any more.

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Yes Iris it sure is. I have a new pic ready for Monday when I swallow my last lovely  little Magic Bean too

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 , i'm so excited for your upcoming EOT

Yes Iris it sure is. I have a new pic ready for Monday when I swallow my last lovely  little Magic Bean too

Yes it certainly gets me that so many of us seem to suffer with the same type of thing, and it is only us realising to late that it connects, to this blasted dragon. My foot thing has been so bad at times I could not even bear the Doc, Physio or Ciro to touch them without screaming and yet they see nothing wrong. As Observer said, even a sheet at times can be excruciating. Who would believe that a virus running rampant in out blood and damaging our liver could have this effect on our feet/nerves. The things this darn virus does besides killing our liver. I wonder in this day and age if the Medical Profession will realise it is not in our head - the pain we suffer is real and extreme. We are not bunging it on for drugs. Certainly not one of my problems that I would have ever put down to the Hep, and clearly the medical profession do not associate it either.

5 more beans to go!

Hey Ya’ll,  

If I didn’t know we were all getting better and just read our histories, I’d be the first to wonder how we made it this far! Good grief, we’ve all had quite a journey, haven’t we? It is encouraging to see that we’re not alone with so many of these issues. Even more so when we read of the improvements. The pizzer is it took so many years to figure it out... 

I’ve got the added joy of a serious spinal injury and it has taken front seat to many of the lingering hepatic manifestions related to long term HCV. Arthritis and nerve damage seems to be getting worse, but as STL mentioned, you learn to live with it. Doctors all think we’re seeking pain meds, so the standard answer is physical therapy, OTC anti inflammatory drugs and repeat visits that accomplish absolutely nothing. Oh well, they say “bite the bullet”, so I‘m looking for a flavored bullet to bite on. That seems to be working as well as anything.

6 Beans, STL? Wow! You’ll be done and that Dragon will be a thing of the past, in no time. I must agree, Year of the Dragon, is a good sign.