Cannabis use improves retention and virological outcomes in patients treated for hepatitis C
lilbit said
Apr 25, 2015
My Husband actually had medical marijuana approved through his treatment doctor when he was on one of the old treatments. I threw a fit because I was a Probation/Parole Officer at the time. He had a card through two treatments. Neither one worked. I had my treatment at the same place but they have changed their policy on it now. I wouldn't have used it anyway as I let that go after my hippie days. But, now that I am not an Officer, I feel if it helps and they can get it legally more power to them.
skewedButNotBroken said
Apr 25, 2015
I believe I still have my water bong somewhere in the attic :)
-- Edited by skewedButNotBroken on Sunday 26th of April 2015 01:51:44 AM
Tig said
Apr 25, 2015
Dolphin,
Check your profile page. I sent you a private message on this.
Dolphin said
Apr 25, 2015
You are seeing my actual name, not Dolphin? Crap! How do I change that???
Groupergetter said
Apr 25, 2015
Cannabis improves retention? I don't think so :) We need to remember that in most states it is still illegal and that insurance companies could deny tx for illegal drug use. There may be beneficial effects of burning a doobie but I would have to see statistical evidence to believe it improves virological outcomes. It appears this article may more related to legalization . Yes Dolphin we see your name :)
Dolphin said
Apr 25, 2015
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, me too (just an old hippie). Bit paranoid about talking about personal experience with this here. But I did not have cirrhosis as of last check, which was maybe a year, year and a half ago, and now I do, and thinking maybe what I thought would be a helpful thing (in multiple ways) actually hurt my poor long-suffering liver. In all other ways effects are beginning to be understood as totally positive. But this study really kind of kicked me in the gut after my recent diagnosis of cirrhosis and the cancer. No good deed goes unpunished? Hoping that the Harvoni clears the hep, and the targeted chemo kills the stinkin' tumor, and I get a whole new start.
By the way, when I look at my posts, my actual name appears at the bottom. Wasn't my intent. Do others (you) see that, or is it just me that can see it?
rblood said
Apr 25, 2015
Well Dolphin I don't have any studies that I could refer to but I have been a steady daily user since age 14 I'm now 58 and have had Hep C since the 70s. I do have fibrosis but not cirrhosis. I'm still just an old hippie.....Roger
Dolphin said
Apr 25, 2015
Brand new user and figuring out how this works. I just started Harvoni treatment this past Monday, VERY excited about it. Had an experience with the horrible old meds a number of years ago that nearly killed me and did nothing for the hep. Side effects of Harvoni minimal compared to that: some fatigue, some brain fog, nothing major.
With regard to this topic, I was diagnosed with a small tumor in my liver and received targeted (not systemic) chemo for it, hopefully that will work. That procedure was a week ago Friday, then started the Harvoni this Monday. I was found to have some cirrhosis also, though, and that's where the MJ comes in. Have done lots of reading and it has positive effects for most things, definitely helps to cure cancer and many other things. But I was shocked at one study that has been done that said that heavy use (daily use) was correlated with a higher risk of cirrhosis. Does anybody have any more info on whether this is true or not?
Here is one link: http://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/cirrhosis-and-cannabis/
Brian1412 said
Apr 25, 2015
the oils are the best!
Josh Haynie said
Apr 25, 2015
dose alot of other things too ... that are positive but people have these pre concieved notions instilled in them when they were young that all illegal drugs are bad for you
and for the most part thats correct... the actual ingredient in marijuana that is anti cancer anti eppileptic and so on and so forth look it up :) is canabinoid CBD...
im well aware of that and weed will be legal in July here ... and since i have jobs where i still cant smoke it ... iLL just stock pile it grow it or figure out how to get CBD oil or charlottes web marijuana strain which has no THC but high CBD... but iLL also get sum regular Pot too ... but ya i mean even red wine and a few beers is good for you .... good luck convincing sum people of that...
but if you actually do research or read case studies unless that figures are doctored up the clearly show health benifits .....
but ya in short weed is good for you ... thats about as plain as i can make it
Brian1412 said
Apr 24, 2015
I was rembering my prior battle with advanced cancer and the pot issue came up often.it is proven to have some beneficial. Qualities as to psin relief and so on but one thing with cancer was that besides marinol,pot is usually. Smoked,and the biggie one was it could give false results to lab tests which put the drs against it. Not sure if the same happens with Hc,but something to think about
Tig said
Apr 22, 2015
rblood wrote:
Ha! I like all of your comments on the subject.
I do live in Wa. State where it is legal for both medical and recreational use. Also Hep C is on the list for medical use.
But I did not partake while on Harvoni. But I have been done now for over a week. I won't know where I stand for three months. Kaiser doesn't want to test me until 3 months EOT. Just an old hippie.......Roger
Hey Roger,
Congrats on completing treatment!! You should've let us know sooner. I'm sure you're going to get the same great news so many others have been hearing on the Harvoni Train. Be sure to let us know of your progress after treatment.
That last paragraph has concerned, you old hippie, lol! If you need help finding a place to stand for three months, you should probably sit down, ha, ha!
Seriously, good luck on your upcoming test!
Scruffy, I haven't heard that song in years. Thanks for the memories!
Scruffy said
Apr 22, 2015
I haven't smoked in decades, but I just thought I'd put this here.
-- Edited by Scruffy on Wednesday 22nd of April 2015 10:06:21 PM
rblood said
Apr 22, 2015
Ha! I like all of your comments on the subject.
I do live in Wa. State where it is legal for both medical and recreational use. Also Hep C is on the list for medical use.
But I did not partake while on Harvoni. But I have been done now for over a week. I won't know where I stand for three months. Kaiser doesn't want to test me until 3 months EOT. Just an old hippie.......Roger
Cinnamon Girl said
Apr 22, 2015
Tig56 wrote:
Hey Jill,
I know nothing..... Never saw that box before Officer! Somebody else must have left that here when I was gone! Ha, ha!
Yeah, yeah, they all say that...come this way, Sir!
Tig said
Apr 22, 2015
Hey Jill,
I know nothing..... Never saw that box before Officer! Somebody else must have left that here when I was gone! Ha, ha!
Lonewolf,
I also see the VA for various things and they test me every time I have a check up. Same explanation, since I'm receiving disability and prescription benefits, it's part of the "program". It's a choice I made and am okay with it. 2A!
lonewolf said
Apr 22, 2015
Not to drag out the subject, but since I go thru the VA, I think I would have a better chance of winning the mega lotto than having Uncle Sam giving me the O.K. to use it. All the ID specialist cares about is my Hep C though. He would insist on doing their 28 day program though if he suspected IV drug use. He never "drops" me like my primary care Doc does once a year. The VA is very liberal in doling out controlled substances but will cut them off if you test Pos for THC although it also depends on which Doc you have. And then they would warn you first. I know a lot of guys sell their pain meds or tranquilizers and take just enough of it to test Pos so they won't be cut off. I guess they make pretty good money at it but I shy away from felonies myself. Love my guns too much. LOL. In the army they always told us to, "smoke em if ya got em" so I guess that's my final say on it!
Cinnamon Girl said
Apr 22, 2015
It`s an interesting topic, thanks Roger, and it has been brought up here before.
If anyone is interested you can type `cannabis` into the search box and you`ll see previous threads where it`s been discussed..
The study dates from 2006, well before the new DAA`s were available, and the side effects from the older Peg/riba based treatments came with much harsher side effects. I know some people have said they found smoking, or inhaling, cannabis helpful with things like nausea and loss of appetite.
Apart from the legality issue, I think people have to make their own mind up about it.
Wow Tig, is that your own personal stash??!!
Femapples said
Apr 22, 2015
I specifically asked my Hep C nurse about marijuana and she said that it's an illicit drug so she can't condone it but what I do about it is my own decision. So, I'm smoking it just in the evening through a vape. I'm a cheap date anyway, so it doesn't take much. I also use it to do my art work...but VERY little. It's all I need anyway.
Tig said
Apr 22, 2015
Okay, I just have to say one thing.... (In jest of course, lol)
If there was ever a day that someone sat this in front of me, it wouldn't have been Hep C that hurt me, just sayin! Don't forget our #1 rule either, clear any new "supplements" with your doctor first!
>>>Cough<<<
PS: Roger, what are you doing up there? Behave yourself young man, ha, ha!
With the "cravings" side effect on Harvoni, wouldnt sparkin' a doob probably turn you into a T-Rex? ! I hear Willie Nelson has created his blend called "Willies Reserve". Guys, with all the brain fog we get, put down that pipe. Just my 2 cents.
Tess said
Apr 22, 2015
Ditto what lonewolf said. With the new DAA's -- don't want to mess with success! Interferon is a different story.
lonewolf wrote:
On the interferon based protocols that may have been useful and these little articles are always eye catching but I sure wouldn't risk its use with the new DAA's. Virtually no studies have been done on cannabis use and how it could interact with these new drugs. Also, the new regimens are much shorter and more tolerable so why risk any possibility of it interfering with the DAA's efficacy? I know a lot of supplements can interact and cannabis, in my opinion, is on the same level.
Don't get me wrong. If I had just taken interferon, I'd probably be rolling a nice fattie right now. But I sure don't see the need for it with the new drugs.
lonewolf said
Apr 21, 2015
On the interferon based protocols that may have been useful and these little articles are always eye catching but I sure wouldn't risk its use with the new DAA's. Virtually no studies have been done on cannabis use and how it could interact with these new drugs. Also, the new regimens are much shorter and more tolerable so why risk any possibility of it interfering with the DAA's efficacy? I know a lot of supplements can interact and cannabis, in my opinion, is on the same level.
Don't get me wrong. If I had just taken interferon, I'd probably be rolling a nice fattie right now. But I sure don't see the need for it with the new drugs.
I believe I still have my water bong somewhere in the attic :)
-- Edited by skewedButNotBroken on Sunday 26th of April 2015 01:51:44 AM
Dolphin,
Check your profile page. I sent you a private message on this.
You are seeing my actual name, not Dolphin? Crap! How do I change that???
Cannabis improves retention? I don't think so :) We need to remember that in most states it is still illegal and that insurance companies could deny tx for illegal drug use. There may be beneficial effects of burning a doobie but I would have to see statistical evidence to believe it improves virological outcomes. It appears this article may more related to legalization . Yes Dolphin we see your name :)
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, me too (just an old hippie). Bit paranoid about talking about personal experience with this here.
But I did not have cirrhosis as of last check, which was maybe a year, year and a half ago, and now I do, and thinking maybe what I thought would be a helpful thing (in multiple ways) actually hurt my poor long-suffering liver. In all other ways effects are beginning to be understood as totally positive. But this study really kind of kicked me in the gut after my recent diagnosis of cirrhosis and the cancer. 
No good deed goes unpunished? Hoping that the Harvoni clears the hep, and the targeted chemo kills the stinkin' tumor, and I get a whole new start.
By the way, when I look at my posts, my actual name appears at the bottom. Wasn't my intent. Do others (you) see that, or is it just me that can see it?
Well Dolphin I don't have any studies that I could refer to but I have been a steady daily user since age 14 I'm now 58 and have had Hep C since the 70s. I do have fibrosis but not cirrhosis. I'm still just an old hippie.....Roger
Brand new user and figuring out how this works. I just started Harvoni treatment this past Monday, VERY excited about it. Had an experience with the horrible old meds a number of years ago that nearly killed me and did nothing for the hep. Side effects of Harvoni minimal compared to that: some fatigue, some brain fog, nothing major.
With regard to this topic, I was diagnosed with a small tumor in my liver and received targeted (not systemic) chemo for it, hopefully that will work. That procedure was a week ago Friday, then started the Harvoni this Monday. I was found to have some cirrhosis also, though, and that's where the MJ comes in. Have done lots of reading and it has positive effects for most things, definitely helps to cure cancer and many other things. But I was shocked at one study that has been done that said that heavy use (daily use) was correlated with a higher risk of cirrhosis. Does anybody have any more info on whether this is true or not?
Here is one link:
http://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/cirrhosis-and-cannabis/
the oils are the best!
dose alot of other things too ... that are positive but people have these pre concieved notions instilled in them when they were young that all illegal drugs are bad for you
and for the most part thats correct... the actual ingredient in marijuana that is anti cancer anti eppileptic and so on and so forth look it up :) is canabinoid CBD...
im well aware of that and weed will be legal in July here ... and since i have jobs where i still cant smoke it ... iLL just stock pile it grow it or figure out how to get CBD oil or charlottes web marijuana strain which has no THC but high CBD... but iLL also get sum regular Pot too ... but ya i mean even red wine and a few beers is good for you .... good luck convincing sum people of that...
but if you actually do research or read case studies unless that figures are doctored up the clearly show health benifits .....
but ya in short weed is good for you ... thats about as plain as i can make it
I was rembering my prior battle with advanced cancer and the pot issue came up often.it is proven to have some beneficial. Qualities as to psin relief and so on but one thing with cancer was that besides marinol,pot is usually. Smoked,and the biggie one was it could give false results to lab tests which put the drs against it. Not sure if the same happens with Hc,but something to think about
Hey Roger,
Congrats on completing treatment!! You should've let us know sooner. I'm sure you're going to get the same great news so many others have been hearing on the Harvoni Train. Be sure to let us know of your progress after treatment.
That last paragraph has concerned, you old hippie, lol! If you need help finding a place to stand for three months, you should probably sit down, ha, ha!
Seriously, good luck on your upcoming test!
Scruffy, I haven't heard that song in years. Thanks for the memories!
I haven't smoked in decades, but I just thought I'd put this here.
-- Edited by Scruffy on Wednesday 22nd of April 2015 10:06:21 PM
I do live in Wa. State where it is legal for both medical and recreational use. Also Hep C is on the list for medical use.
But I did not partake while on Harvoni. But I have been done now for over a week. I won't know where I stand for three months. Kaiser doesn't want to test me until 3 months EOT. Just an old hippie.......Roger
Yeah, yeah, they all say that...come this way, Sir!
Hey Jill,
I know nothing..... Never saw that box before Officer! Somebody else must have left that here when I was gone! Ha, ha!
Lonewolf,
I also see the VA for various things and they test me every time I have a check up. Same explanation, since I'm receiving disability and prescription benefits, it's part of the "program". It's a choice I made and am okay with it. 2A!
Not to drag out the subject, but since I go thru the VA, I think I would have a better chance of winning the mega lotto than having Uncle Sam giving me the O.K. to use it. All the ID specialist cares about is my Hep C though. He would insist on doing their 28 day program though if he suspected IV drug use. He never "drops" me like my primary care Doc does once a year. The VA is very liberal in doling out controlled substances but will cut them off if you test Pos for THC although it also depends on which Doc you have. And then they would warn you first. I know a lot of guys sell their pain meds or tranquilizers and take just enough of it to test Pos so they won't be cut off. I guess they make pretty good money at it but I shy away from felonies myself. Love my guns too much. LOL. In the army they always told us to, "smoke em if ya got em" so I guess that's my final say on it!
It`s an interesting topic, thanks Roger, and it has been brought up here before.
If anyone is interested you can type `cannabis` into the search box and you`ll see previous threads where it`s been discussed..
The study dates from 2006, well before the new DAA`s were available, and the side effects from the older Peg/riba based treatments came with much harsher side effects. I know some people have said they found smoking, or inhaling, cannabis helpful with things like nausea and loss of appetite.
Apart from the legality issue, I think people have to make their own mind up about it.
Wow Tig, is that your own personal stash??!!
I specifically asked my Hep C nurse about marijuana and she said that it's an illicit drug so she can't condone it but what I do about it is my own decision. So, I'm smoking it just in the evening through a vape. I'm a cheap date anyway, so it doesn't take much. I also use it to do my art work...but VERY little. It's all I need anyway.
Okay, I just have to say one thing.... (In jest of course, lol)
If there was ever a day that someone sat this in front of me, it wouldn't have been Hep C that hurt me, just sayin! Don't forget our #1 rule either, clear any new "supplements" with your doctor first!
PS: Roger, what are you doing up there? Behave yourself young man, ha, ha!
With the "cravings" side effect on Harvoni, wouldnt sparkin' a doob probably turn you into a T-Rex? ! I hear Willie Nelson has created his blend called "Willies Reserve". Guys, with all the brain fog we get, put down that pipe. Just my 2 cents.
On the interferon based protocols that may have been useful and these little articles are always eye catching but I sure wouldn't risk its use with the new DAA's. Virtually no studies have been done on cannabis use and how it could interact with these new drugs. Also, the new regimens are much shorter and more tolerable so why risk any possibility of it interfering with the DAA's efficacy? I know a lot of supplements can interact and cannabis, in my opinion, is on the same level.
Don't get me wrong. If I had just taken interferon, I'd probably be rolling a nice fattie right now. But I sure don't see the need for it with the new drugs.
Dang it! I'm moving to Colorado! :)
Link to this article
http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/21-health-benefits-of-marijuana/ar-AAboNFC#page=11