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drummerman


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fourlocos,

 

So thats good!  and makes me feel better... if I can keep getting >15 then I am considered SVR!  Good enough for me!

 

thanks for posting!

 

dm

 

 



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The quantitative range of the assay is 15 IU/mL to 100 million IU/mL
using COBAS(R) TaqMan(R) HCV test, v 2.0. The limit of detection (LOD)
and lower limit of quantification (LLOQ) for this assay is 15 IU/mL.
Results less than the quantitative range of the assay will be reported
as "HCV RNA detected, less than 15 IU/mL".

This is what my test results showed actually.  I just copied it from Mychart.  That is the 12 week post test.  They called it SVR.  My 24 week post showed the same thing.



-- Edited by fourlocos on Friday 28th of August 2015 01:17:49 AM

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 12 weeks SVR.  Reached 24 weeks SVR!
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The Dr doesn't, but Broward G  will only say Normal now. 

They are kind of whacked org, with some really good  Drs.  They bill themselves as " The 8th Largest Healthcare system in the Nation.   I always tell them I have offered heard that Big does not equated greatness. 

Again, some  really good Drs, and Trauma  but the rest is a  Farce



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Hey Rob,

Where did you have the tests drawn, what state? I'm in Florida and all of my test results were written "undetected". I had the majority of my tests performed through Quest. I've never heard of any state regulation prohibiting the use of terminology like that. I have a hunch (?) that it's lab specific.



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Interesting Brian!  Thanks!

dm



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The lab at my Drs/Hospital will not ever write it  undetected. The Dr says it is, but the lab is never  permitted  to write it that way. The Admin said something about a State law but we can't find one. 



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Thanks Gracie, CG, Tigg and Penny,

not worried, just curious and like to learn all I can... don't know why.

 

dm

 

 



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DM,

I hope Gracie, CG and Tig have convinced you there's nothing to worry about.   This v-p/riba is going to make us well and save our lives.  Please don't be stressed out.

Penny 



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Yep, nothing to worry about there. We very often see a few stragglers hanging on and the number is so low, they can't even count them. You will certainly be undetected on your next test. Fact is, you probably already are. In the beginning you had almost 11 million viral  copies per millileter and now that number is less than 15. That tells you it's working!! Keep your spirits high, this is working for you!



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Hi Dm don`t worry, that`s still a good result at this stage in your treatment! 

You`re right that it isn`t quite the same as `undetected` but it`s very near to that.  The test can detect that the virus is present but the amount is too low to quantify.

The difference between the tests you mention is that the qualitative can detect whether or not the virus is present, whereas the quantitive can measure the amount of viral load you have and put a number on it.  The quantitive test is the one used throughout your treatment.

You`re doing well and the treatment is obviously working well, so relax!  smile

 

 

 

 

 



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Thanks Gracie!
dm

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It's such a small amount, they can't detect how much. This is positive and what you want at this point. Others can give you advice on specific tests, but this is great news!



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Well my nurse called and  told me I was undetected... but after careful reading and research , I see that my printed results say 
"hepatitis C Quantitation <15   IU/mL   HCR RNA detected.

Technically this is not UND... correct??

and a question - is the qualitative test the one that can tell you if you are UND??  and is this test administered at end of TX?

any help understanding this would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
dm



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